MickMake Meets: Dave Jones / EEVBlog - Part 2: YouTube fame


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To celebrate my 10,842 subscriber milestone. I thought I’d interview a YouTube legend in the electrical engineering industry. In Part 2 we look at his YouTube years.

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Part 2: YouTube fame

In Part 2 we look at his YouTube years.

  • Sharing stuff.
  • His Podcast show - The Amp Hour.
  • How he accidentally discovered YouTube fame.
  • Embarrassing moments on YouTube.
  • His “Publish and be damned” YouTube philosphy.
  • Filming frustration.
  • His best scam whistle blowing.
  • Advice to new YouTubers.
  • His surprise at how there’s a market for everything.
  • Is YouTube untouchable?
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Transcript

The accidental YouTuber

Mick
January 22, 2017
Mick January 22, 2017

So you're now a YouTuber, so you've sort of left.

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Dave January 22, 2017

I'm a YouTuber yep.

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Mick January 22, 2017

That sort of electronics industry, well not really behind but you sort of-

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Dave January 22, 2017

No, but-

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Mick January 22, 2017

Progressed on to becoming a YouTuber.

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Dave January 22, 2017

Yeah I'm not a design engineer anymore.

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Mick January 22, 2017

What made you want to become a YouTuber?

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Dave January 22, 2017

I didn't.

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Mick January 22, 2017

Oh okay.

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Dave January 22, 2017

I had no idea, as most YouTubers ... Well, it's probably a bit different these days, 'cause people know you can make millions of dollars from it [crosstalk 00:00:50]. But back when I started-

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Mick January 22, 2017

Not millions of dollars.

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Dave January 22, 2017

Millions of dollars, well yeah, it's gamers not us. And those toy and unboxing videos.

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Mick January 22, 2017

Yeah.

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Dave January 22, 2017

Back then, like 2009, early days, early-ish days of YouTube, and virtually no one was making a full-time living from it, so the thought didn't even cross your mind that it would turn into something big, and especially electronics wise, I thought maybe they'll be 1,000 people that might want to watch me. I thought that'd be successful, you know? But yeah, it wasn't that. It's just that I've always shared my stuff, be it back in the days before the Internet, I'd get my designs published in the magazines, right? That was the way that you shared things back then, that was the only avenue that you could share stuff.

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Dave January 22, 2017

And then once the Internet came along as the world wide web, I had a website on there and I started putting my stuff on there as well. And I got fairly ... I'd get a ton of ... You think I get a ton of email today, I was getting that back just when I had my own website, 'cause I was up in the Google rankings and there was none of this YouTube rubbish, and I was getting a ton of email back then, just people finding my website and email me questions and ask stuff.

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Dave January 22, 2017

So I moved from the magazines, to the websites, and what's the next avenue? I actually originally thought it was radio, podcasts.

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Mick January 22, 2017

Okay.

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Dave January 22, 2017

So before I did the video blog, I thought "Hey, I'll do a radio show." Which turned into the Amp Hour, but the reason I didn't do it is 'cause I thought "Nah, it's not that exciting. Nobody wants to listen to just me talk for an hour." So I thought "Hey, this YouTube thing looks alright. I'll shoot a video and see what happens." And it was awful. It was the worst thing I've ever done. It's still up there, number one, ten minute limitation back then, and it was all off the cuff. I had this old crusty web cam, it was like 320 x 200, and I just turned it on and started talking, and that turned into the first video. And I uploaded it to UseNet News Group.

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Mick January 22, 2017

Oh UseNet, yeah.

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Dave January 22, 2017

UseNet, yes, oz.electronics, you can find the original post probably somewhere, and I posted there and everyone said "Yeah, like it, when's episode two?" And I went "Episode two? I don't know, I didn't plan that. Okay." So I did another episode, another one, and two years later it was my full-time job. I had no ... I still have no plan. If you ask me what's my next video, I've got no idea. It might be one of five different things.

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Publish and be damned

Mick
January 22, 2017
Mick January 22, 2017

What's one of the episodes that you regret publishing, 'cause I know you've got this policy of publish and be damned, as you told me at the Maker Faire in Sydney last year.

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Dave January 22, 2017

Publish and be damned, yeah. I've never taken down a video, so I can't have regretted it that much. I got into like ... I don't really regret them, but I thought that just didn't work, like I shouldn't have done that.

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Dave January 22, 2017

Like I got into a bit of politics back in the day, and I should have just stayed-

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Mick January 22, 2017

Stayed away from it.

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Dave January 22, 2017

Off-topic rants, I shouldn't have done off-topic rants. That just wasn't a good direction for the channel.

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His favorite episode

Mick
January 22, 2017
Mick January 22, 2017

And what was your most enjoyable video?

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Dave January 22, 2017

It's hard to say, 'cause it's different things. I do enjoy the ones where I go out and film stuff, but that can also be a pain in the ass, as you know, filming on location is not ... It's much easier to film in the lab, and I get frustrated quite easily, you know, when things are not going the right way, and going out and shooting stuff on location is hard, but it can be also rewarding. No individual episode stands out, I've made too many.

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Mick January 22, 2017

It's almost 1,000 now, isn't it?

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Dave January 22, 2017

1100.

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Mick January 22, 2017

1100.

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Dave January 22, 2017

1,000 official, or 950 official or something, and 1100 uploaded videos.

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Blowing the lid on scams

Mick
January 22, 2017
Mick January 22, 2017

So out of all your episodes, you've blown the lid on a number of items like white van speaker scam, FTDI counterfeiting, solar roadways, free energy.

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Dave January 22, 2017

Batterizer, free energy.

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Mick January 22, 2017

What's the best one you've done so far?

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Dave January 22, 2017

How do you define best? Most profitable?

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Mick January 22, 2017

The one that's sort of had the most impact.

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Dave January 22, 2017

For biggest impact, you've got to have one that reaches the most diverse audience, I think. So that would have to be probably solar roadways, because things like the Batterizer are more technical oriented and they only appeal to technical guys like us, right? And I've done other ones like the Fontis self-filling water bottle, a wi-fi energy scam. I do like the Fontis water bottle one, in that I did the calculations on the back of an envelope, which not many people seem to have got. They didn't seem to understand "why am I writing on the back of a envelope?" Like it's a saying in engineering "Let's just do a back of the envelope calculation."

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Mick January 22, 2017

Yeah.

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Dave January 22, 2017

So I did some and I mailed it to them. That was cool. I enjoyed that.

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Dave January 22, 2017

They've just admitted, I tweeted it just the other day, they just admitted that basically it doesn't work. They're still working on it. They've still got your quarter of a million bucks, or whatever.

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Dave January 22, 2017

But yeah, yeah, the biggest impact would probably be solar roadways, that reached a bigger audience. I get emails from people who don't care about engineering or electronics, but they liked my solar roadways video.

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Dave January 22, 2017

One in the Netherlands they built one, and the results turned out exactly what the calculations would really predict. And I said "Hello. Welcome to the world of engineering."

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Dave January 22, 2017

I'd like to do more of those, that have a wider impact. I'd like to try and reach a wider audience.

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Advice to new YouTubers

Mick
January 22, 2017
Mick January 22, 2017

Okay. So for a YouTuber who's just sort of starting out, what's the best single piece of advice you could give them?

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Dave January 22, 2017

Consistency. You've got to keep producing content. There's not a single YouTuber who's an overnight success, like Pewdy Pie, or whatever, the biggest one out there, he spent years making videos before he was well known and became successful. Years. like it's not months.

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Dave January 22, 2017

There are a couple of examples now, like the hydraulic press channel and other ones which kind of go viral and stuff like that, you can become successful relatively quickly, but 99.90f the YouTube success stories are hard work.

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Mick January 22, 2017

Yeah, yeah. Absolutely right. Hard work.

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Dave January 22, 2017

Making content, you know what it's about. Day in, day out, and for years. After two years, I did it solid for two years and I only had 10,000 subscribers, which that's a lot, right, you've just reached your 10,000 milestone, how long have you been doing this?

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Mick January 22, 2017

Since February last year.

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Dave January 22, 2017

Congrats, see. You grew twice as quick as I did. It took me two years to reach 10,000 subscribers. So well done.

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Mick January 22, 2017

Yeah, but I think these days you've got a lot more tools to make your content look a lot more professional.

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Dave January 22, 2017

You do, but there's a lot more competition, though.

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The untouchable YouTube

Mick
January 22, 2017
Mick January 22, 2017

True. I saw some YouTube statistics saying that every day there's a 1,000 YouTubers reaching the 1,000 subscriber mark.

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Dave January 22, 2017

1,000 YouTubers reach 1,000 subscribers. Wow!

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Mick January 22, 2017

That's a lot.

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Dave January 22, 2017

How many, I'd love to see the entire curve of that. The entire metric.

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Mick January 22, 2017

Yeah. Be nice to see those stats.

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Dave January 22, 2017

I never knew there was a market for this, I never knew it. The one thing I've learned is that there's a market for everything.

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Mick January 22, 2017

Yeah, that's true.

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Dave January 22, 2017

I cannot believe it keeps growing, where are these subscribers coming from? I have no idea. I think it's got to end somewhere, but it never does.

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Mick January 22, 2017

Yeah, it's got to end somewhere, and I keep thinking in the back of my mind, you look at some of the stats and it's 400 hours every hour or something.

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Mick January 22, 2017

Hang on. YouTube will actually take your hi def video and transcode it down to maybe 20 different formats, so your two gig video isn't just two gigs, could be five gigs storage or something.

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Dave January 22, 2017

It's massive, yeah yeah. And they keep your original upload, too.

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Mick January 22, 2017

Do they do backups? I don't think they're doing backups.

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Dave January 22, 2017

It's phenomenal, and that's why no one can touch YouTube and nobody will, for the foreseeable future. You can't beat their infrastructure, you can't.

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Mick January 22, 2017

Yeah.

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Dave January 22, 2017

If you had ten billion dollars and came along and go "I'm going to beat YouTube." Good luck. It would take you five years just to build the infrastructure.

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Mick January 22, 2017

Yeah, that's right.

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Dave January 22, 2017

Let alone-

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Mick January 22, 2017

The algorithms and everything else. Yeah.

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